_________________________________________________________________ re: > please e-mail Edition: 2002-07-07 Audience: World-Wide Often seen in postings to netnews & other forums: "please copy any answers to my email address as well as I don't always get to read the newsgroups." This is not a criticism, but rather a net tip that may serve you. If you want to de-motivate many informed net users who might otherwise answer your question, stating "please email", or even more effectively "please email, as I don't read this newsgroup regularly", is a great way to do it. A significant percentage of credible net users simply do not respond when an article says "please email". Why? This is not about "netiquette", but rather about results. Potential contributors may (and do) misinterpret your intentions and choose to not reply. The reason is that, although you probably didn't intend it, "please email" can be read as: * I'm a hit-and-run surfer in this group. * I have never contributed anything here myself, and don't ever expect to. * I want all (or a number) of you to spend time addressing my issue. * My time is more valuable than yours. * I don't want you to share the answer with anyone else here, even if the question is of general interest. * I only want isolated answers, with no one else correcting any misinformation or completing any missing information. * I can't be bothered subscribing to this netnews group long enough to read responses. * I won't even check http://groups.google.com, to read responses there. * Bye. The preferred alternative is: 1. If the question might have been asked in netnews since 1995, check for traffic at: http://groups.google.com This will also save you from guessing incorrectly about which newsgroups are having the most intense discussion of the topic. 2. If the question might be in a FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) document, check a web search site. 3. Not found? Then by all means ask in netnews or your favorite forum/BBS. Don't include: "I'm not a regular reader." Don't include: "I'll summarize to the net". That promise is so rarely honored, that stating it actually impairs one's credibility. If there's need to summarize, it will become apparent from your email and netnews responses. If so, don't promise it, just do it. 4. Subscribe to the group for at least 10 days to collect responses. If your newsfeed has a short expiration (as mine does), and you are afraid that you might miss a response, try Google (URL above). 5. If you have a technical/logistical/organizational problem with access to netnews and the web, explain it. This may raise your chances of getting responses. For example: "Please email as well as post responses. My news and web access is presently broken, and I don't know when it will get fixed. I've had to use a borrowed account to post this, so use the email address in the .SIG below" 6. If you must include "please email", include a known-good email address in the text at that point, and also insert or edit the Followup-to: header, as well as declare a Reply-To: header. If you rely on the default address in the From: header, it will often fail, and most respondents won't bother investing the time to troubleshoot a second reply attempt. Header lines to add or edit (where "poster" is literally that, and "you@host.org.domain" must be changed to your email address): Followup-to: poster Reply-To: you@host.org.domain 7. In general, if an email response is more appropriate than a posted one, you can presume that the responders will figure that out, but also doesn't hurt to say, if appropriate: "If this is addressed in a FAQ, please point me to it. If this request is apt to generate multiple duplicate responses, please email them to me." Finally, this is not just my opinion. When I post this tutorial, I often get mail from valued net contributors who agree, and who acknowledge that they indeed often FAIL TO REPLY when they see "please email". I also sometimes get email from the person asking the question, expressing annoyance at what they see as being lectured to, and complaining that no one will answer their question - which is the whole point of this tutorial. About the only thing you can post that is actually LESS likely to generate responses is: "please email, and note that my Reply-To: address is munged to foil spammers. Please edit as follows..." Regards, PO Box 248 Bob Niland Enterprise mailto:name@isp-name.domain Kansas which, due to spam, is: 67441-0248 USA rjn AT access DASH one DOT com Unless otherwise specifically stated expressing personal opinions and NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.